Maybe a few more of your articles will give me courage to jump in. Also, why am I having this conversation with someone who doesn’t even have a name!? I read a lot of PF blogs and am always intrigued with how bloggers … In the world of macro-economics, what happens when a stuck supply curve meets a rapidly advancing demand curve? with a 90% confidence level that my assets are sufficient, that is enough. That book explains that by having at least some in bonds (as well as diversifying across small/large and International), then when you rebalance each year, you are in effect forced to “buy low / sell high” even if it doesn’t feel right. I got into the 401k game late (age 33), so I tried to put a good chunk of my pre-tax income into it every year. This is is indeed the bond (fund) appreciation you mentioned, which we can shift over to buy those stocks on sale, specially in a retirement account where selling shares won’t trigger taxes. My wife and I contribute the maximum to our HSA every year. November 29, 2018, 8:32 pm. That is, I get cancer or hit by a bus, requiring significant financial outlay not in my plan. Being frugal does give you choices at times like this, and I have left my job as a preschool teacher, with the option of doing day to day relieving around treatments when I feel well enough. Kandice I understand not touching the principal on post-tax investments during retirement (because we’re all so bad-ass that we’ll live to 100-plus), but is it the same for tax-deferred investments? Strategy 3: Use the Section 72(t) Early Retirement Grocery Money Loophole. You are now in a low tax bracket – you can actually roll over a chunk of your 401k into a Roth IRA account and pay income taxes on it at this point. He and his wife simply socked away more than half the money … Socially Responsible Investing: Is It Also More Profitable? They call this a “100% success rate” in cFireSim, and it’s kind of an overkill way to save for retirement (since you can always substitute with lifestyle flexibility instead). That’s been my recurring nightmare since retiring 18 years ago at 34. MissSaraBee But that’s my total tax for the year. My parents have had different scenarios with their parents, and my mom’s dad was the easiest. And assume that you can safely withdraw about 5% per year from your fund from a combination of its investment returns/dividends and a bit of its principal. Or if you have side income you can take gains and dividends up until you reach $72K total. Assumptions: You are single, have no other dependents. Also, I remember healthcare being exceedingly cheap as a *traveler*, not even resident, in such far-flung places as Argentina and Jordan. And the fact that your income is from selling off stocks? Not fun to talk about but it’s there. So I can add that to income. But we would have no extended family near by. Has anyone done this to preserve a house or land? Withdrawals from taxable accounts aren’t taxable. My Taxable bonds are all in the 401k(s) that I have. What are the costs of health insurance to cover the gap until you get to be 65? November 29, 2018, 11:46 pm. CapitalistRoader I’m personally not planning on retiring too early (my personal goal is 55). This isn’t horribly surprising since the average family income in the US is $56,000. snowcanyon anonymous Then, the SEPP will be larger…..maybe about $15k/year. As there’s so many places to see and stay. Without them, you will melt into a whining puddle in front of a television that endlessly blares Fox News. No – because that 15% tax rate is not a flat tax, it is the MAXIMUM amount they make you pay on long term capital gains. November 11, 2011, 11:06 am. You’d have to continue paying your Part B premium, but I think it is important to note that Medicare coverage should be far less expensive than 20% copays if you know the system. Remember, you can write off some of your taxable losses against your income ($3000/year I think?) Gypsy Geek Mr. Money Mustache If you have a good stable of companies in your portfolio, your income will increase as they increase their dividends every year. FYI I make approx. BND ~10%, VTI ~45%. Whether you lump-sum invest in VUS (all in one go) or dollar-cost average (decide to invest 25% every quarter for the next year to spread the risk), no one can really say which one will be “optimal”, but choose one and don’t let yourself be paralyzed by uncertainty. anonymous my two takeaway quotes from this awesome article: I think everyone would be happier if instead you plan on having enough for you to grow old together. So when you hear “100% stocks”, it is more like (as an example), “20% small cap, 20% large cap, 20% emerging markets, 20% international, 20% biotechs”. And my basic fixed housing costs drop from $2300/month to about $700/month not including all the extras like maintenance and utilities. And the lower the prices are, the more you will have to sell to meet you necessities. Of course, you can take more. Just a new MMM blog fan writing his first thoughts. We have the advantage of delaying professional care until it is absolutely necessary, so thank God we chose to retire early a few years ago. So we hold (I think) my age minus 17 in bonds, so we’re probably at 20% in bonds now. So overall a pretty solid plan similar to others I have read on this thread. Seriously though, it’s my job to try to learn from skeptical feedback in order to see if I’m missing anything. Anyway, it still amazes me how much we get totally RIPPED OFF as Canadians in terms of taxation, housing costs, grocery costs, consumer goods, flight costs,gas prices, etc. This is particularly important to me as my wife and I are heavy into investment real estate. if no dividends are payed the funds rise 5% in a year). Here is an excerpt from another site : That’s the magic of early retirement math – the answer is NOPE! Healthcare is never free. It’s written from a UK perspective. Great post, it’s good to see MMM posting in classic form. Blew my mind that the math allows us to withdraw from Principal amount (4% rule) and still be ok for many years. FI is ours Being a dual US/Canada citizen, I moved to Canada for health insurance reasons. The money you roll over to a ROTH-IRA has no such protection. Being employed in a traditional job doesn’t solve these situations, Florida Mike Especially with a 15-18 year timeline. November 11, 2011, 9:43 am. I think most people would go back to work full time or part time if the market severely crashed in the first few years. Even if your estate gets taxed, that money is still (mostly) going to support your own society, so it’s just another form of giving your money away to help your fellow citizens. What if someone needs 24/7 nursing care for months to years? The tax basis of an investment is typically the cost you initially paid for the investment. That account just throws off those gains each year. 2, Lower tax bracket Use the java calculator in the source you linked to. This system was originally designed to accommodate people who would work through their entire adult life, and retire only when they had lost all ability to be productive, presumably to die just a few years later. This is our first year. Because of those withdrawals, your account will lose a few shares every year. Anonymous: We decided to rent a cheap apartment and not have kids. Then, if you’re shooting for $40,000 of annual spending, simply set up an automatic monthly withdrawal of an additional $31,000 per year ($2583 per month) to be sent to your checking account, which is set to automatically pay off your credit card, which you use to buy your groceries. PS, a little unknown fact is company matches are always done on Traditional (pre-tax) money even if you opt for Roth with your own proceeds. Wuhoo! By filing form 5329 I can offset all but 7.5% off my medical costs from the withdrawl. I’m reading these “what if” responses and it occurs to me that people who are reading MMM still just don’t get it. But I do really think that for “super savers” this is a good question. We’re all drinking beer while we’re writing these comments! A problem with qualified plans is that you don’t know for sure what your withdrawal income will need to be when you’re retired (risk of large unforeseen costs that bump up your tax bracket), Also leaving money from a retirement account to your heirs is hugely problematic tax wise, whereas treating a permanent life policy as an investment can rack up a huge death benefit, Think of it as this: there is value in the bet that you, as a young healthy human being, will survive many years. Remember, holding different asset classes also means you can re-balance every so often, selling equities when they’re expensive and buying cheap bonds, and vice-verse. MMM is neglecting income tax because federal income taxes are typically $0.00 in the scenario used in the article. In my experience they will take it into consideration down the road. November 29, 2018, 4:00 pm. The Wife intends to work (teacher, good medical, Summers off) for the next few years so with the rent we get plus her salary I should not have to touch the stash in any case. Read your entire stock market series, and have been trying to get my cousin (who keeps asking me financial advise) to read it. For example selling for $100K something with a cost basis of $80K and paying 0% LTCG due to tax bracket, but selling those securities 3 years later for $95K would result in a $5K capital loss during that year due to the new $100K cost basis. Using your logic you could preach to everyone that working a corporate job doesn’t work because you could get $250k in medical bills not covered by insurance. Thanks for the reply. If you get sick or injured, and I’m speaking from personal family experience, medical insurance will save your financial future. September 26, 2014, 2:43 pm. November 29, 2018, 2:49 pm. 2. Given government debt problems, it seems that something has to change radically. Now, I’m single and with my income I can’t do a direct ROTH IRA, I need to do a backdoor Roth. I retired last year and have a part time job that pays $32,000 a year so I decided to keep putting 40% into the 401k. (Although it truly isn’t free since it’s funded by the taxpayer). I do not feel the need to die with a million dollars in the bank. I also echo the sentiment of encouraging people to at least make contributions up to the match. Dawn O Rebekah Those are all things I did not know about the Health Savings Account. lots to do and see… and the groceries are cheaper. The American Dream. Since this is more than the $600k we calculated above, it could be said that this person already has TOO MUCH in his 401k, and now he just needs some dough to get him between whenever he retires, and age 60. I agree with the dividend strategy. – After “retiring” or even while “taking a year or two off”: Each year, convert a portion of your 401(k) or Traditional to a Roth IRA. November 29, 2018, 10:46 pm. What country would provide such care to noncitizens? Russell LIfePoints Conservative Strategy Fund BTW, totally cool to be able to put money into HSA,. The Medicine of Mustachianism (a guest post from Marla), No, You Didn’t Just Lose Half Of Your Retirement Savings,,,,,, We were paying $18/month for a bronze plan (HDHP) for 2018; will be about $9 for 2019. And this post also helps you understand the complexity around keeping health insurance while you are no longer actively working.Grear info around what to do with your wealth stuck in 401k/ira and in your house equity.The book referenced in this blog is amazing. I couldn’t agree more. Is ≈ 30% of your income being set aside for retirement too much at the age of 30? Most employers will sweeten the pot by throwing additional money your way to motivate you to switch to the cheaper high-deductible plan. To have access to 500k all in one day to buy stocks on the lowest day in the stock market, you have to either 1) sell some other investment or property, thus having to factor in that selling price as well, or 2) have 500k ‘spare’ money sitting in cash for years waiting for you to guess the best time to start investing. The taxes are pretty moderate if you’re not turning over your portfolio frequently (which you shouldn’t be). I’d welcome any education or clarification, but it seems that one must be careful about boundless faith in the market or in one’s continuing good health. Possibly tax loss harvesting and most importantly behavioral coaching. Mr. Money Mustache can tend to get a little high-level at times, talking about all these ... 401k contributions 401k match Tax Return Total Income Total Spending Net Income Savings Rate. Not free. – you will pay capital gains tax on income generated from non-registered accounts, but this is at a lower rate than the same gains inside a RRSP get taxed when you take them out [assuming you are earning the same base income at both times. For the time being, I would take the extra after the match and Roth IRA and put it into a taxable account, Vanguard is probably ideal. Not because it doesn’t happen, but because an early retiree is no worse off than someone with a job in this case. An ETF like SPY can grow faster than GDP on a temporary basis, due to P/E expansion (optimism). To the point that I’ve now been hearing many thirtysomething millionaires saying things like. I would just add that these forms of income do count in determining your MAGI for ACA insurance purposes, even if they are taxed at 0%. Thanks so much for the reply Alex! December 2, 2018, 1:59 am. Regarding your comment, it’s interesting to hear about people who want to leave the U.S. and move to Canada. In the best case scenario, they get richer, I get richer, and their customers receive goods or services that they value. What About All Sorts of Other Stuff Not Covered in this Article? So even if you have no other income, 10€ in dividends gets you a 3€ tax bill. It's amazing. So far, so good. Get me to FIRE quickly so I can enjoy it. A big chunk of my savings are in 401k or pension, locked up until I’m 59. Realising this is a Ponzi scheme made us to bail out from Finland and move as far as we could (to Australia). February 6, 2014, 4:29 pm. Great Blog MMM, you and I could be brothers the way we have approached our financial lives, we even made some of the same mistakes (ie, timing of RE purchases). And you can always go back to work – on average you are more employable if you are in better mental and physical condition, and these are the things that higher savings, lower spending, and optional early retirement facilitate. December 14, 2018, 2:44 am, NoClaude There are of course fees, so buyer beware. Japan for one, and I’m sure a bunch of others. That in between area is debatable. It appears that the dividends are being added back into the ending amount, but the dividends were being used to cover expenses correct? (FYI, my parents have a paid off home that has appreciated to about $900k-$1 mil depending on the market. November 11, 2011, 7:27 am. I want to start withdrawing some of the money from the 401K now, when I only have to pay 10% than when I’m forced to withdraw and I might be making SS putting me a higher tax bracket, plus who knows what gov’t might be charging by then. At 60 I’ll be getting ~$8400 CPP [2015$] and 67 I’ll get a total of ~$15,100 [2015$] CPP + OAS. 2. One of the pluses of DGI is that if you have decent capital, you never have to sell any shares. I am not an expert, but it is my understanding that setting up a solo 401k is only for the self employed. His reply, “because there’s lots of money to be made”. When the shit hit the fan in 2002, I had to cash out my 401K for living expenses and got hit with the extra penalty fees. If you have a really large locked-up retirement balance and a small taxable account, you might want to tap into the retirement account sooner. I admit there is high standard deviation with these results and Mr. Money Mustache’s approach of a 10-year time horizon adds to the variability. October 16, 2020; Joel; Credit cards can be a powerful tool in your hands. If I hadn't have accidentally discovered Mr. Money Mustache in early 2014 when I was 55, I'd be in deep **** now financially. I’m not disagreeing about a market calculations or sequence of returns. After we pay off rentals, that’s more than $8000 a month with a total net worth > $2 mm….this should be more than enough. And design the big picture with a generous Safety Margin, which allow lots of slop and mistakes in your original forecasts and allows you to still come out with a surplus. Built up savings again, then I had heart surgery for an undetected heart defect, found at 30. Identify any opportunities to harvest deferred tax benefits as you go along and withdraw from your RRSP at that time. If you are doing this, then saving that $17,500 in the 401k saves you paying taxes on this money at the 28% federal rate. I withdraw from my IRA $27,000 USD per year and pay the 10% penalty (because I didn’t learn about the concept of FIRE until very late in my career and have no taxable account) but it doesn’t matter because that 10% just covers the higher taxes I pay in Canada. Had we *not* been well positioned with F.I.R.E, and instead had each been working 40 hours a week with debts to carry, we would have been hard pressed to care for her mother. In my case, I’m stuck with stupid fees, but after the 2nd year I should have $12,000 which should be enough to bypass the $2.50/month fee. But I think all countries are having these debates. Without the blog would have you or Mrs. MM needed to return to work once you divorced since the money would be split? There are reasons not to. Thanks much – don’t know how I ever missed that – ha! And the trend is down. Or of course, just save more initially to allow for the tax expense. No you do not have to deplete your 401k at any age but you do have to start taking the minimum required distribution or MRD a.k.a MDR at 70 1/2 if you are no longer working for the company hosting that 401k. Yup. ), Heather So the account should have been appreciated at 2.11%? Wouldn’t you need to withdraw $47,058 to end up with $40k to spend? The second reason is that I am making far more money in the stock market than the 5% interest rate, so for right now, I am letting it ride. So for the majority of private citizens, it’s a comparison that is unlikely to be particularly relevant. Allwine Let me know if i am missing something. We are both athletic and ride bikes, hike, lift weights etc. ($900/ mo. there are probably some good VULs out there, and they may fit especially well for certain tax situations. It looks like part A, which is the hospital insurance, is “free” because of the premiums you paid throughout your working career. If you currently own no bonds, now (while in a 8+% dip) is probably not a good time to start buying bonds and certainly not a good time to rebalance into them. I fully agree with your analysis. Is this only true if you roll over into a rollover IRA, or does it hold true for funds rolled over into an established trad IRA or ROTH IRA? MMM notches it up a bit, even though (by everything I can tell) he’s making huge bank (hundreds of thousands of dollars a year) on his website. The 4% withdrawal rate is never going to be exactly 4%…it is going to average 4% over the years, but depending on whether the market happens to be up or down, it will be more or less than 4%. What are the advantages / disadvantages? First of all, complain to HR. Definitely an underutilized tool that can be very helpful with our current system. Thanks for the reply MMM. I can’t remember where it was though. I sure hope you didn’t believe those are really the views of Mr. Money Mustache. Even if you’re over that the tax is only 15% on the distributed gains and dividends, which are pretty low for Vanguard funds. People usually view taxable, tax deferred, and tax free as separate accounts, this can cost you money. Barbara Or needs to spend several years, even his or her whole remaining life, in a nursing home? October 12, 2012, 5:40 pm. The main problem with the move idea is the illness itself. I found your thoughts on Finland very interesting around higher taxes, but higher social support too. Small correction on the withdrawal rates. Since you will almost surely be in a lower tax bracket (likely 15%) when you retire, this is the only way to go. December 2, 2013, 3:12 pm. First, the maximum contribution limit for a solo-401k or SEP-IRA is now 49k, not 44k. I figure the mortgage payoff will provide me with a lot of freedom. As long as you are planning to work for a decade or more, I don’t see 2 years without retirement savings having a major impact on your final portfolio. Dang, it was a fun factoid while it lasted. It’s also shitty health insurance because it often carefully doesn’t cover doctors or hospitals that are good at expensive things. It’s a gamble on how long you will live, but I think you can build in a safety margin there too. It just matters how much you have in total. It depends on the plan. One other potential strategy for you. Of course most people in that situation have recognized their vulnerability and adjusted their lifestyle to the new reality whether they like it or not. And, of course, if they have contingencies like side gigs, social security, rental real estate, aunt’s inheritance, etc…they will probably still make it. For example let’s say on 1MM you kept 200k in cash. November 12, 2011, 9:46 pm. What will it be worth by the time you reach 60? ;). I have to agree, Josh as every job I have ever had would fire me the minute I got sick or hurt. But, since we have BOTH continued to work occasionally and own businesses and real estate (the blog is just one of these things), we had enough surplus that there was not even any downsizing required. John Grover I think as you get older these situations are more likely to start happening. There’s simply a lot of care that isn’t available on an archipelago with only a few million inhabitants. Then I asked myself a very important question…Well, what if you don’t have a money mustache and get cancer right now? Employers have to follow their Plan Documents that are subject to ERISA. Are you still going to do your article? That would be great! How do you continue to take out $40,000, which is 8% of that $500,000, every year forward and not run out of money? The moving strategy is quite viable, since you can always change your mind; if you move to a country with cheaper living expenses (but no proper health care) and e.g. Three Wolf Moon Life optimization didn't happen overnight for Mr. Money Mustache. So yeah, I *think* the HSA provider is completely controller by your employer. My portfolio returns are half my wife’s over the time series. Wherever you live, politics doesn’t have to affect you because it only exists on TV. FormerFrontRangeGuy 60 years old is so far away, and there are so many variables it’s difficult to calculate what I’ll require. Because he can. If you have been working on your frugality skills, you wouldn’t have to go back to the cubicle. snowcanyon As of today my browser said Server cannot be found. : ) THAT’S the importance of asset allocation when you are no longer earning money from your job. A fixed chunk of money is about as safe a retirement strategy as you’ll ever find. The ethical argument in favour of investing is that in the best case, you are helping people by lending them money to start and grow their businesses (or to buy homes or any of the things people need capital for). – We have universal health care, so no reason to worry about health insurance. You should take advantage of compound interest and dollar cost averaging in the stock market. In my experience, people who develop stances like this are in actuality trying to rationalize away a solution to a problem that they don’t like because it’s too hard for them. Fingers crossed. Congrats! The strategies described in this blog are designed to shift us all to a more sustainable, healthy, productive economy. Eroding captial for these expenses especially early in retirement means the capital won’t last as long due to compounding. Not to mention the balmy weather makes life so much cheaper in general (less heating, less layers of clothing, less wear on vehicle etc etc). The local Ontario food pantries also severely limit how often one can get food to 4-5 times a year. But if you had $11000 in rental expenses, then your net income from rental would only be 18000. Mr. Money Mustache, pretty sure the point of your lifestyle is not to waste money on stupid inefficient crap. Unless I am missing something I cannot figure out a way to move to Canada without marrying a Canadian. The spreadsheet (and consequently the whole article) assumes cost of living will stay the same without the effects of compounding inflation. downtownshuter, some aspects of your strategy are a very important part of mine and I wanted to elaborate on them. For an HSA the is age 65, (not 59.5) before it is converted to “IRA-like” withdrawal process. There may be some other rule differences that would favor one vs. the other also. An example: If the 401k is worth 100k and you’re 35, your life expectancy is 61.4 years. I’m a former American public school teacher who found the salary in Florida insufficient, so I moved abroad…in fact, I am in one of those very countries you referenced now, earning a much better living so I can return to the States in a few years debt-free and on my way to FIRE. We recently had a conversation with another couple. It’s based solely on the account value and your age. 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